Tuesday, April 8, 2008

trolls...

...sneaking around in pro-hillary sites spewing hate.

they are afraid of a hillary win so they go around telling people how inevitable the obama nomination is and hence any success that hillary will have going forward is illigitmate and must have been underhanded.

last night, a friend of mine asked me:

him: "do you think hillary should quit because she's so far behind?"

me: "how far behind do you think she is? she's really not that far behind. she literally has 50% of the democrat party's support. is that being far behind?"

him: "don't you think she should quit now or else it will hurt the party?"

me: "well, do you think not letting people vote in a close race and disenfranchising
them won't hurt the party ?"

him: "do you want the election to be decided by backroom deals?"

me: "are you implying that only hillary will make backroom deals if the primary is taken all the way to the convention? by the way that it looks now, both of them will be making deals with superdelegates. obama is just the same."

him: "if hillary wins because the superdelegates votes, people will get angry and something bad will happen."

me: "why will something bad happen if she wins, are you threatening hillary supporters with violent riots?"

him: "... no, i'm not"

me: "look the rules are the rules. hillary made a strategic mistake by ignoring caucus states and the porportional allocation has hurt her even though she would have carried the nomination under a winner take all electoral process. superdelegates are also part of the rules and we all accept the outcomes as the rules are written. we complain about caucuses, the FL and MI votes and you complain about superdelegates. ultimately we should accept it because that is the outcome. i think it is just as equally likely that the superdelegates will end up being a negative for hillary, but you won't hear us threatening violence and chaos."

btw, i remembered an obama lie from a long time ago. during a debate with cnn(or msnbc) he was asked about NAFTA. he said that as a community organizer he had seen the negative effects of NAFTA in south chicago and yada yada... the lie was, when he was the community organizer, NAFTA hadn't been passed yet. he likes to play gotcha with the american people. his unspoken challenge: "because i'm so perfect and you are so smitten, see if you can catch me when i'm lying."

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